thank u spookykatt and jamesg4128,cerrently use a meade lx200 8", ans agree has a narrow fov, have improved that a little with this scope with a meade mwa eyepiece, my first choice was the sw dob 14", but just mentioned the 12" lx90 because im used to using the lx200,and spookykatt not sw v,s the meade, still just a newbie and just want a better scope for visual viewing, and james neb,s and deep sky interest me , don't know if id get the dob in my 1 series bmw james lol, currently mostly use hyperion 68 fov eyepieces with my lx 200 8", would be great james if I could c ur 16" sw dob, that's a good idea I think